Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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There is so much evidence around us to prove an Intelligent creator.

by nicolaou in

that's an 'ever so slightly' adapted quote from tophat on another thread; http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/108341/2880755/post.ashx#2880755.

i've been really dismissive of god/s, religion, faith and the abandoning of reason but when it comes to the 'argument from design', well you just have to give it a bit more .

respect?

THE GLADIATOR

Greendawn

'Reaching out for the more complicated, the more developed,' is not nessecerily a spiritual endeavour. It is part of our desire to exploit our full potential.

I can see by your avatar that you consider yourself to be more than an intelligent animal.

The desire to be more than we are is driven by our imagination. I could believe that I am the reincarnation of a famous Gladiator. Then again its is more like that I am deluded.

fallaces sunt rerum species
(The appearances of things are deceptive)

TG

106

There is so much evidence around us to prove an Intelligent creator.

by nicolaou in

that's an 'ever so slightly' adapted quote from tophat on another thread; http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/108341/2880755/post.ashx#2880755.

i've been really dismissive of god/s, religion, faith and the abandoning of reason but when it comes to the 'argument from design', well you just have to give it a bit more .

respect?

THE GLADIATOR

IP-SEC - That was an interesting piece that you posted.

Those who believe that mankind was created by a god, mostly believe the Bibles line that we were created in Gods image.

However the rules of nature apply to us as much as other animals. If the way we live and treat this planet is flawed we too could become extinct.

The fact that we are bound by the same natural rules that animals are and face the same risks and dangers, seems to suggest that we are made in the image of animals not a God.

This should lead us to question whether there is a God that exists in the image that many have assumed.

TG

108

The JWD stigma about being "nice"

by changeling in

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i'm back from a little jwd break and i'm happy to see that things are not as volatile as when i left.

however, some things never change.

and one thing that seems to be a constant around here is the mentality of some very intelligent and knowledgeble ones (in their own minds at least) that if you are "nice" you are some how emotionally needy and/or not too bright.. i don't think the "happy people" on the board have anything against people with high iq's.

THE GLADIATOR

'Cuddly, warm and fuzzy!'

The only such creature I know of that is all those things is a lion.

This board is an arena for debate, argument and discussion. There is room for everyone and we can skip the threads that don't appeal to us.

I have been involved in the big egotistical, intellectual debates on this board under my real identity. The truth is I got bored with debating the same old issues with some very bright people and some very ignorant people. My favourite posters have mostly left over the years.

There is also room for humour here. I have taken leave of myself and have re assumed a comical persona set up some years ago with the deliberate intention of having fun and encouraging people on the board to not take themselves or their beliefs so seriously. I also enjoying being a fictional character that allows me to be someone that I am not. You do realize that I am not really a Gladiator - don't you?

I personally like to see the big brains in earnest combat fighting to the death to defend and justify their intellectual property.

I have neither the time or inclination to 'go there' any more but I still like to be entertained. Like an emperor watching the Gladiators testing each others metal.

ad verecundiam
(Appeal to modesty in an argument)

TG

76

Your relationship with Jesus Christ

by real one in

what kind of a relationship are we suppose to have with jesus christ?

THE GLADIATOR

What kind of a relationship are we suppose to have with Jesus Christ?

The same as two fighting Gladiators.

If your God is true, you will embrace in death.

Deficit omne quod nasciture
(Everything that is born passes away)

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WHO is authorized to pronounce judgement? Those WITHOUT sin?

by Terry in

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"let him who is without sin cast the first stone.".

the above statement by jesus was directed at a throng of men about to stone a prostitute in accordance with the law of moses.. jesus did not say the law of moses was wrong or that the men should not carry out the judgement against the prostitute.. jesus did single out a qualifying eligibility which stopped the execution by an appeal to conscience.

"let him who is without sin....".

THE GLADIATOR

Terry

I don’t approve of the way the Elders shepherd their flocks. I was pointing out that Jesus was not talking about the act of disfellowshipping. Also what Elders claim their motive is.

Wilds horses do the same thing. If a stallion does not respect the chain of command in a wild herd, he will be driven out where he will be at risk from predators. If he survives, then after a while he will be allowed another chance to conform.

So if someone is asked why they were disfellowshipped, they can say, ‘Wilds horses couldn’t keep my by their side.’ (Yes that was a joke)

As you are a worthy combatant, I would like to throw you a sword to help your argument along.

I no longer keep a copy of the Aid book but remember that under disfellowshipping, it said that it was an alternative to stoning which modern laws prevented them from doing. Instead, the disfellowshipped one was put outside to await their death at Armageddon.

TG

137

What is the best way to help BurnTheShips...

by nvrgnbk in

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to grasp that the basic purpose of science is to produce useful models of reality.

how to help him understand that trying to make observable reality "fit" around a collection of writings designed in its first half to inspire the oftentimes persecuted jewish people and in its second to consolidate the fragmented roman empire is an exercise in futility?.

sorry, burn.. i couldn't resist.. hope you're having a wonderful day,.

THE GLADIATOR

BurnTheShips

Ardeo Navis is a better sounding version of your name and worthy of a Gladiator.

It seems that you are making an effort to overcome your demons and conquer a great enemy. I fear you are still relying too much on your Gods.

Perhaps a longer sword would help you to become more self reliant.

Your astounding progress in Latin indicates that you are serious about becoming a Gladiator.

Eram quod es, eris quod sum

TG

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WHO is authorized to pronounce judgement? Those WITHOUT sin?

by Terry in

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"let him who is without sin cast the first stone.".

the above statement by jesus was directed at a throng of men about to stone a prostitute in accordance with the law of moses.. jesus did not say the law of moses was wrong or that the men should not carry out the judgement against the prostitute.. jesus did single out a qualifying eligibility which stopped the execution by an appeal to conscience.

"let him who is without sin....".

THE GLADIATOR

According to the Bible Jesus was talking about who had the right to stone another to death.

Watchtower Elders would claim they are disfellowshipping a member in order to help to correct them. That it is an act of love that is intended to lead the errant one back to the fold.

So their corrective activities are really nothing to do with what Jesus was talking about.

Anyway stoning is rather primitive. A swift word stroke or a well aimed trident is much more civilised.

TG

137

What is the best way to help BurnTheShips...

by nvrgnbk in

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to grasp that the basic purpose of science is to produce useful models of reality.

how to help him understand that trying to make observable reality "fit" around a collection of writings designed in its first half to inspire the oftentimes persecuted jewish people and in its second to consolidate the fragmented roman empire is an exercise in futility?.

sorry, burn.. i couldn't resist.. hope you're having a wonderful day,.

THE GLADIATOR

BurnTheShips seems to have adopted his name to convey the idea that there is no way back for him, to whatever he has left behind. He has approaches life in a dramatic and aggressive way tempered by a sense of humour.

He informs me that he fights with the short-sword and buckler and has threatened to cut my throat and even attempted to cut my right arm off. He is getting beyond himself and forgets that I am The Gladiator.

He could be helped but is handicapped by his passion and devotion to the vengeful and ill tempered God of the Israelites now the God of Christians.

He has to choose between being a Christian or a Gladiator.

Fortes fortuna iuvat

365

Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

by Perry in

i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

(intellignet design).

THE GLADIATOR

BurnThe Ships

You have equipped yourself well in our encounter. I shall treat your short-sword with respect.

I am, however concerned about your obsessive compulsion to burn ships. I am sure you have your reasons but it is an unpleasant habit.

Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris

TG

365

Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

by Perry in

i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

(intellignet design).

THE GLADIATOR

Burn The Ships

I have just returned from combat and missed the fighting in this arena.

A few pages back I picked you up on your use of the word sacred. Your reply indicated that you were using the word 'sacred' in a secular way meaning, ' entitled to reverence and respect.' That your beliefs did not influence your choice of words.

Yet on another thread you stated, 'God made the body, it is therefore sacred.'

My comment was prompted by your explanation of sacredness based on your assumption that man was created.

minima maxima sunt